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Dr. Josh Funk Featured on Hardwood Hustle Podcast

Dr. Josh Funk Featured on Hardwood Hustle Podcast

Below is the transcribed version of the Hardwood Hustle Podcast that Dr. Josh Funk was recently featured on. Enjoy!

[If you put your effort and concentration into your play - to be the best that you can be; I don't care what the scoreboard says at the end of the game, in my book we're going to be winners.

This is true for so many players today, the talent in the spotlight it's taking them to heights that their character is not strong enough to support. I'm one of those to set goals-about faith, passion. You guys have been around me every single day. I wanna be one of the best, play with the best of the best.

 --gets praised….

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Adam: Thank you for tuning in, you're listening to the Hardwood Hustle broadcasting from Washington D.C. I'm your host Adam Bradley alongside TJ Rosene. Got a special guest today a good friend of mine Josh Funk. But before we get into today's episode let's say quick shout out to our friends.

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Josh: I'm doing good guys. Thanks for having me.

Adam: Yeah absolutely. So Josh you really started-- I mean you're a Maryland guy but as you said Lax Factory as we were talking about you are a lacrosse guy. So you played high level lacrosse, you actually went to Ohio State on a full-ride?

Josh: I didn't go on a full-ride, one of the combination academic, athletics and yeah I went there for four years. I was fortunate to be a captain my senior year and went to the Elite Eight for the first time. 

TJ: Even better you know I don't think a lot of people understand this is about academics cause we have a lot of you know coaches advising players and a lot of players listening. Your academics matter so much like a D2 school where I'm at, we have scholarships and we have full rides but most everybody on our team has some other way to be able to package them together to be able to stretch your money further you know. So every kid should apply themselves academically - it's not a pitch for school, I personally didn't even like school. But knowing what you can get out of it to to better yourself is extremely important. So you set yourself up you must have done some things right academically as well.

Josh: Yeah I mean I think my parents just always emphasize being well-rounded. I've heard the quote you know the way that you do anything is the way that you do everything probably ever since I was young. So I really didn't have an option to excel in one area of life so it was just natural fit that academics and athletics both got me to that point where I got to go to.

TJ: So you were a high level player, credit to your parents there, how did they raise you as a young athlete? How involved were they? What things would you have done different? What things did they do really well?

Josh: I think I was very fortunate in that you know in an unfortunate situation where my parents were divorced when I was one. Just had parents who really parented the same way regardless of whether or not I was with my mom or was with my dad I always heard the same message. So that level of consistency was just very very important for me you know growing up into being a young man, doing things a certain way. My mom is an army brat, my dad was the the son of educators. So you know just a certain amount of discipline, a certain amount of emphasis on work ethic; I think those two things in itself are separators for people. And when I can think back just to my youth, you know athletic career in particular just really a huge emphasis on whether or not I was the hardest worker I practice never necessarily the outcome but more of the process oriented steps that allowed me to keep taking steps forward.

Adam: So as I mentioned TJ, Josh is a high-level athlete okay The Washington Post recently did a thing where they look back over the last 20 years of lacrosse in our county and named the top players right that first team over those last 20 years Josh's name was included. Talked about the difference of going from high school to college; okay like the skill level, the adjustment that took place, like how intense was it, what was the most difficult thing for you? You know think about like a high school player now that's making that jump to the next level to play college ball; what was the biggest challenge, what did you learn the most and if you could go back and do anything different what would you have to kind of make that adjustment better?

Josh: I think for me I mean two things, one and I think it's kind of the reason why I created Lax Factory after I graduated from graduate school. But I was a better athlete than I was an actual lacrosse player. I know that sounds crazy because I got to go play at Ohio State but from an IQ standpoint and overall breadth of skill standpoint; I was the lagging behind other people that were say in my class or were there. I was a better athlete than majority of the people there but I think that kind of handicap to me a little bit in my first couple years. Found myself more on the defensive side of the midfield and overall I mean if I were to do stuff differently I would have sought out more ways to expose myself to higher level skill and higher level IQ. That's where kind of Lax Factory comes into play you know it wasn't really easy for me to go down to DC go to Baltimore all the time, you know it's a significant drive. I can tell you like the club team that I played on was was down in Northern Virginia so it was just harder we didn't necessarily have some of the resources available. 

TJ: Yeah, Well two things, first of all just I want to go back to something you said a second ago and then I want to talk about exposing yourself to better play or better skill development. I love what you said, we have so many coaches here that are parents as well and talking about coming from a broken family. And your parents were divorced when you were one. ...about 90% of my college basketball team doesn't have you know two parents. But I love what you said that they were consistent, both of them parented and a way to raise you to the best of their ability and that's a part that they didn't disagree about you know. I think that's so important for parents these days. I mean you can-- I’ve seen divorce get ugly so many times but when I said kudos to your parents and what a good lesson the way you've turned out that the two parents could focus on one thing which was you in developing you and get consistent parenting from both sides. So I just want to shout out to your parents on that first of all just because I think that's so awesome that that happened. Second thing, expose yourself what would you have exposed yourself to? It sounds like you know - not playing better players, being around better players to be able to challenge yourself. What was it exposed yourself to better skill training because you said athletically you were there. You needed more development in the skillsets?

Josh: I think skills training was something that I definitely was lacking and you know I was and this is by no discredit to anybody that was involved with me from a coaching standpoint. But I just never had exposure to as many people who had played at the collegiate level prior to me actually going to play college ball. So from an IQ standpoint, I could only go as far as what I was exposed to. So really was just overall just lack of awareness, I have no doubt that if I would have learned some of the skills that I needed to I would have been more prepared. Because that's just kind of who I am and in terms of preparation and trying to be the best player possible. But I just didn't have the exposure to some of those things.

TJ: Yeah and this isn't a shameless plug but this is what we're talking about the players at PGC, I mean there's so many things they do. They go play - they play so many different games over the course of the summer. We always say that technique is the grand equalizer in the game of sport you know. If you have that technique and if you have the knowledge how to use that technique you can catch up to the rest of people. And so it's really important for players that are listening to understand that. Like you know even making that jump - being one of the best players in Montgomery County in Maryland going to Ohio State; you still felt there was a gap and that gap was technique and that's what you needed to close the gap to be able to be the best player you possibly could be.

Josh: Yeah absolutely. I mean that was just a huge huge thing where you know you get to the next level and you're realizing some of the things and whether or not it's you know kids at a Baltimore private school which - you know my roommate for four years he had a separate skill set that I'd literally just had not been exposed to on a regular regular basis.

Adam: And what was he doing different during that process to develop that that you weren't doing? Like did he have a personal coach, was he being more intentional with it, was it because he was in Baltimore where it's a little bit more of a hotbed than up here in the northern Western Maryland area?

Josh: I think just you get a lot more exposure to people that have played at the level of lacrosse that we were gonna play at or even further you know. If they're on the world team or something like that. You know his father was a coach, I grew up and I didn’t have any parents that played lacrosse, that everybody in my family played lacrosse. So I think that in itself just kind of puts you in a separate category and you know I'm really really big on self-awareness. And it's hard to be self-aware when you don't know what else is out there. You don't know what you don't know and I didn't know what I didn't know until I got to college….

Adam: And I absolutely love how you in essence twisted that word exposure, exposure such a buzzword right in today's young youth sports right. Everyone wants to get exposure, I want to be seen - you actually twisted that you turn that around said no I wanted more exposure to more skill work or to better training to learning the game; that's the exposure I sought. Not the exposure of like I needed be in front of more coaches you know when you go back and say what would you've done different. That was never in your conversation, it was I wanted more exposure to get better, okay which I think is a powerful lesson for today's youth. So you end up playing there and playing at Ohio State great experience I'm assuming?

Josh: Right absolutely yeah, I can't complain at all and it's amazing school.

Adam: And last week you know at the time of this recording, they unfortunately lost to Maryland my alma mater pretty decisively.

Josh:  And you know cool part about it just a little - for my old assistant coach who's now the head coach there. But you know it's just pretty cool to see somebody who spent a significant amount of your college career now the head coach at the University you went to and obviously taking the program where it's never been before.

TJ: This was a national championship game right?

Adam: Yes, Gillette Stadium where the Patriots plays - a big NCAA lacrosse Final Four which is really grown in popularity. And what do you think about the growth of lacrosse; are you pleased with where it is in the sense of how it's grown, are you still like discouraged that it hasn't gotten bigger? Like where's your thought process on it from like a national perspective?

Josh: Big part, I mean it's fast paced and it's physical. I think those are two things that a majority of young athletes enjoy and I think when you talk about the growth of the game it's predominately at the youth level. And I think the the hardest part right now is you're seeing this boom with regards to growth at the youth high school level and you're not seeing it mirrored on the college level as quickly.

Adam: What do you mean by that?

Josh: Division one men's lacrosse has about 70 teams and that's it. So and while there are teams being added slowly the growth at the youth level is far outpacing the growth of the college level. So if anything it's getting more and more competitive whereas say maybe when I played or even earlier it was like I'll play lacrosse you'll have a good chance of playing in college. It's getting harder and harder and harder because it's not 200 some teams, 300 some teams that play some of these other sports where you have youth participation more mirroring the college opportunities.

Adam: Well it's interesting then knowing that because so many parents these days are trying to put their kids in positions to get those scholarships. So you're saying though lacrosse isn't necessarily this advantageous sport to be in from a scholarship perspective. Because there's so few teams with so many kids now but yet on the flip side the youth is still growing right. So their parents are still putting the players into it even though there's not necessarily a lot of scholarship offers; that's interesting dynamic.

Josh: You know just to educate you know people out there, there's a variety of scholarship types okay. So for instance you know basketball and football are always been known as one-to-one sports. Meaning it for every one player you have you have one scholarship. So at the division one level there's about 85 players in your program, I think you have 85 scholarship you know in college basketball it's something you know a divisional to where I'm at it's ten full scholarships even though you have about 13 12 players. The individual one it's like 15 scholarships 15 players you know. But most other sports are not one-to-one sports and then when you limit it down to 70 sports, you know 70 teams right and probably not being a one-to-one sport; you understand what I mean by one-to-one sport?

[Both: Oh absolutely yeah.]

TJ: So like I mean even most Division one college baseball players which is a major sport are not you know one to one players. They balance those out, you have for instance you would carry like I don't know they - division two I think you carry like 29 players, 30 players but you have 12 scholarships. So you break that out amongst all those and then when you limit it with less teams like 70 you know it's competitive to get any scholarship at any level.

Josh: Well thing for lacrosse, lacrosse just to kind of frame that...lacrosse is a 12.6 scholarship if you're fully funded for a program. On average you have between 45 to 50 players on a team and I can say that you probably have nearing half of the guys on the team that have little to no money and the other half of the guys on the team have a large majority of the money. So when you talk about being able to add value academically or through other scholarship opportunities; it's obviously going to make a sport that you know already has some financial things that maybe limit certain people with regards to demographics you know make it even more appealing from a standpoint.

TJ: Did you ever play basketball?

Josh: I played basketball, football I was a three-sport athlete all throughout high school.

TJ: So I really - lacrosse coach at our College had a really interesting conversation and you know I didn't realize there's a lot of similarities between basketball and lacrosse. You know we talked about offense and the time that the scheme...spacing and ball movement and things like that; is that true I'm asking - conversation I had with him but do you see some similarities between the two?

Josh: Our best kids that pick up lacrosse the quickest our kids that also either play basketball or hockey. From a spatial awareness standpoint and just general game flow some of the transition opportunities very very very similar. I think a big thing too, I mean you talk about basketball and hockey you're handling something while keeping your eyes up just like you're on lacrosse. So there's a there's a skill component that's very similar as well.

Adam: So what is the message and are you very clear and intentional about communicating that lack of opportunity from a scholarship perspective at the next level to your kids at Lax Factory?

Josh: We are very open and could say today I'm about to head up to Mount St. Mary's for our program team camp. We're gonna have a recruiting seminar the big emphasis over and over and over again is grades grades grades grades grades. Lacrosse ideally will allow you the opportunity to potentially get into a school that you wouldn't normally get with your normal grades. That I think is a huge selling point itself and I think that's really the big part with any athletic endeavor. If you can utilize athletics to get into a higher academic school than you normally would get into I think that's gonna be a win-win for anybody.

Adam: I like that. Alright so you kind of put some emphasis a few moments ago about the fact that you are a multi-sport athlete. And I know you're pretty big on this, I've seen you talk about it, we've had conversations about this. Especially because you look at it from two different perspectives someone who runs a lacrosse group and then also your rehab to perform business. So there's a medical side right a scientific side about the multi-sport. Give us your thought process on the multi-sport verse specialization just some general thoughts from you.

Josh: I think there's plenty of research out there. I mean for anybody who wants to look up you know the long term athlete development model more and more time and money is being put into this. And it really just is under the premise that the more that we work on fundamental movement skills prior to working on sports skills the better off we're going to be from an overall health standpoint. And I think what I mean by that is when you expose yourself to multiple situations, you are less likely to kind of overuse or specialize or your body get patterned with regards to the demands of that sport. So if I develop a very very big pyramid at the bottom and that's my just basic fundamental sports, fundamental movement skills, I'm gonna be able to go very very high with regards to building that pyramid when I eventually pick the sport of my choice. Not only that but everybody fails to forget this, but if you have somebody that plays one sport and they find themselves in a situation where they don't have exposure to a lot of things; when they're done playing sports do you think they're gonna be as active? I don't think so personally because I think they're gonna find himself in a situation where okay I've only played export' my whole life and I haven't had exposure to all of the different activities that will allow me to be physically active as an adult. So not only do I think multi-sport is important for kids from their health standpoint and then you can you can look at the research for that but I think multi-sport athletes are more likely to be active for life because they’ve had exposure and enjoyed so many different sporting activities throughout their life. And so one of those people like you know they could go pick up a sport when there are thirty that they maybe have never played before. But they have the movement capacity and the overall awareness and physical ability to just jump into that sport. That's something that’s gonna be healthy for life and I think sometimes that's overlooked.

Adam: That's a great point. I absolutely love the pyramid illustration. I think that nails it. I'm gonna challenge you a little bit okay even though I do agree with you; okay but just-- I want to take it from another angle. You've mentioned that when you got to Ohio that you do wish you had more technical work and maybe some more IQ; like do you think you would have benefited more at Ohio State had you not played multiple sports?

Josh: If I had followed the long term athlete development model, once I've reached peak height velocity which is your growth spurt that's the time where they recommend you specializing. So if you do all the activities you can before you hit peak height velocity that growth spurt and then specialize that's where I would have done stuff differently. That most likely would have been my last two years of high school I would have spent a little bit more time working out, I would have spent a little bit more time with a skill and sport coach and that probably would have put me in a little bit better position to do some of the things that I wanted to do from a you know stepping on-- I still I can't complain I stepped on the field. I played every game in my college career. I just didn't have the offensive impact that I really really wanted to from an early career standpoint because I had some of those handicaps I mentioned earlier.

Adam: That's fair and I actually think that's an appropriate and a fair kind of assessment. Like if you were to go back maybe those last two years in high school because at that time you're probably getting looks from colleges you may even accept you know or make that decision where you're gonna go. At that point you've signed on saying this is where I'm going maybe at that point you start specializing. Well let me also challenge you from this perspective, how do you manage it from a Lax Factory owner perspective? Reason being, you run a business and I say this because they use and the different club leagues they run businesses and their businesses only work when they've got players playing okay and you have multiple seasons right. You do winter box leagues indoor leagues and stuff like that; you do summer league so in essence I get it right most people will agree that multi sport is better. But then we run across a situation where you have businesses that are making money off the players because that's how they survive and it only works when they commit to their sport okay. Because if no one signed up in the winter Lax Factory would struggle, so you need them to sign up for the winter. So in essence is it almost a contradicting message and how do you manage that? Because I think that's where a lot of things are happening with you know specializing in basketball space and stuff like that.

Josh: I can say that we build our overall, and I’m speaking from a club team standpoint, we build our club team calendar off of multi sports so when I look at our fall calendar, for those who don't know Western Maryland is huge for football. So youth football is something that we literally look at the youth football schedule and we build it around. We only see them most of the time in the fall one day week. It's a two-hour practice, it's very very skill oriented, it's not very contact heavy knowing that they're playing football already and we do one or two single day tournaments in the fall; most likely that's after youth and high school football has ended. Then when you talk about winner, winner is optional it is something that is encouraged to come out to practices because they're relatively infrequent for kids that don't play a winter sport. Definitely we have our box program I would argue that that's almost more of like hockey or basketball with regards to the confines of the sport and the overall energy systems used. So it's very very different than outdoor lacrosse even though it is the same lacrosse sport. And then spring you know spring and summer is where we like our commitment to lacrosse with the kids obviously still understanding that even right now I mean I've got the eighth grade group; I have kids starting with football workouts, I've kids starting with summer league for basketball for the high schools. And overall just sitting back and respecting the fact that these kids have multiple things going on their lives. They have a lot of different people pulling them in different directions and appreciating the fact that as long as they're doing something it's better than doing nothing.

TJ: You know I love that approach. I mean you're trying to run a business and really the approach of your businesses develop and pour into young people you're trying to make them better. You talked about recruiting services and in the big picture of how they're going to look at that and developing them holistically and respectful of other sports. You know I think that's the way you should do it. There's a lot of places out there - I think that you're talking about that don't do that. You know first - I know my nephew plays soccer and he's in this program and he got to drive 40 minutes to practice you know. And there's a black team which is the highest team and there's a blue team below it and he is a qualified black team player. But they said well if you don't commit to the six days a week, we're not putting you on the black team. Which is more money, more commitment, more on whatever even though he can play that. And really it's more of a financial thing for my brother and the cash. For our family time we got drive 40 minutes there and 40 minutes back and we've got to pay double the amount from the three to six days a week you know.

Adam: They're gaming the system cause doesn't want to be on the black team right, like wants to be on the middle team?

TJ: So he's sitting there knowing he is qualified to be on the Black team but then they want more that resources - And that's where the mind gets muddied you know what I mean. That's where I think that you look at people that are you really in it to develop young people and run a solid business. Because back to you know we're talking about earlier attracting versus chasing; if you do things the right way, what you're doing, you're doing things the right way people will be attracted to that. They'll make the right decisions versus holding this over there a head to carry over their head or you know saying you must do things this way or else. And so I appreciate that about you, I think that's where you're going with it right. There's a lot of people out there not doing it with the child and the young person first and foremost absolutely.

Adam: Absolutely and I wasn't sure how Josh was even going to answer that question you know I've never asked him that before but I think you answered it perfectly right. And I would hope that club teams can find that balance between running a profitable business and a successful business at the same time honoring the players. Even if that means you know what okay you're gonna lose out on a little bit of income temporarily right. But like take the long term gain approach right, like we want to do be in business for a long time okay. We're not necessarily trying to get rich right now per se. So I like how you answer that and you know going back to them doing it the right way they are. You know they're doing their day camp up in Mount Saint Mary's today, like you said a recruiting seminar which gonna be focus on grades; you're committed a whole hour. I'm joining you guys later to lead them up and they were the first kind of lacrosse group in the country to use lead them up because they want to kind of pour into these players. So talk about a group doing it the right way you know they are.

Josh: And if I could just talk about one thing, when I started Lax Factory I always had it in my head that if all we taught the kids was lacrosse, we have failed them miserably. So we've always tried to make sure that other things from every you know from the selection of the type of coaches that we have involve at the program, to a leadership program, to recruiting, to overall you know I can say myself and now my partner Trey just being role models for the young kids. And being people that they want to develop into, not necessarily lacrosse players they want to develop into.

Adam: Well if they want to emulate you Josh they're gonna be very busy okay because you're also running your rehab to perform company. And let's talk about that because you see a lot of these athletes from all different sports right; you're not exclusive to lacrosse - your business. I mean you were working with moms and dads and everyday individuals as well as athletes. But let's kind of focus on the athletes for a second, talk about just in general, what is coming across your desk most frequently in the high school sports area from an injury perspective, from a rehab perspective; what do you seen the most?

Josh: If I had to pin it on one thing in particular I'd say lack of preparation. And what I mean by that is more and more kind of getting back to my pyramid earlier we have kids who are highly specialized. They do a lot of sporting activities but their overall foundational movement skills and I know that sounds very very basic and broad but they're lacking. And so when I think about preparation, I think about small things like being able to do multi-directional drills found in old school PE classes. Could that be a byproduct of less physical activity outside of the home? Absolutely. Could that be a byproduct of less PE? Yes. Byproduct of less recess, yes. More emphasis on sports sports sports sports sport all the time, absolutely. So I think that there's a lot of different factors in play and overall I do think it's a lack of preparation is leading to a lot of the injuries that I'm seeing in young people.

Adam: That's interesting. I wouldn't have thought about that and sometimes you don't even pay or recognize the effect of things happening. You know when you think about kids that aren't you know go outside and play right. You know as a kid for all of us right we went outside and played until the lights you know the streetlights came on you know then you knew you had to get home. Like eliminating that right, that effect that it has on you later down the road so that kind of what it reminds me of I was an active young man like as a little kid. I was out every day playing home run derbys, playing pickup football, just whatever was out there in the yard. Playing tag, playing chase, all those different things and I probably didn't even connect the dots that all that movement that I was doing as a kid just naturally; what it was gonna do for me in the long term. But you're saying like those are the types of things that these players aren't being prepared enough cuz they're not doing some of these basic stuff.

Josh: When I have kids that come in and they don't know how to like do stuff like skip backwards, do basic balanced tasks, know how to squat. Very very fundamental things and it sounds very simple and it really is that simple a lot of times. But when they can't do fundamental movement skills well but you're telling me that they've been playing say six days a week of soccer or year-round baseball or any of these situations where they've been doing something repetitively over and over and over and the only emphasis has been the sporting field; that's where we're running into situations where we see kids who get injured, they get injured frequently and more importantly like I mentioned earlier where are they gonna be when there are thirty and forty? Their window for physical activity has been narrowed so much and they've been hurt so often; how do you think their overall quality of life is gonna be when it's all said and done?

TJ: Yeah...we talked to you about yesterday just always research and you know before a lot of kids even just get into the normal, I think your first time as primal movements just normal you know every day how you would move. They're already getting programmed into a soccer movement or a basketball movement or whatever it is and don't even have normal primal movements. We were born to move this way  type functions which is a great point I never even thought about that before.

Josh: Yeah when you think about it too and you know just to play off that; how much of practice is actually planned to be not scripted? That's a whole thing in itself, the sport that they play they can't even play it, they're always being told exactly when, where, what to do. So how narrow do you limit their overall development even in their own sport when every single drill is a scripted if that's then this type of drill. We've been trying to do a better job of that from a Lacs Factory standpoint of scripting in literally unscripted time during the practice where you know I can say with my eighth-grade boys, it's a nice conditioner sometimes. Just finished, here you go, we're gonna go small sided or I'll let you guys play it looks nothing like you normally do. Here's what I'm telling you you just have to make sure you communicate, you work hard and you hold each other accountable and that's it. So again finding a [...] wedge, yes, yes. I mean kids have to be able to play the game that they're supposed to play not just run through scripts created by coaches.

Adam: I love that. So TJ you got anything else for for our guy Mr. Funk?

TJ: No, really informative and you know I appreciate what you're doing that to serve young athletes. I mean this is what it's about, I mean it takes a village right and if the village has you know leaders out there in the sports world doing all of these things specialize in a sport right away, making sure you know and and not talking about academics getting just plain exposure right. The village isn't doing their job and this is a great example of the village doing its job and I appreciate that.

Adam: Yeah and I just want to end on this you know you know when the leader improves everybody wins okay. It'sa quote that I often like to say, and you're improving constantly and not just through natural experiences of just living life but being so intentional. You've finished some recent leadership programs here in Frederick, you're doing-- Like you personally are taking the time to be intentional with your leadership development and growing as an individual. Talk about this as we kind of wrap up like the importance of that because I don't want to-- coaches need to be reminded like yes you are constantly growing just naturally through the process. I think we all do just through daily experiences and things but you've got to even make a point to be intentional for your own development. And when you do everybody wins and you're doing it which is no surprise why everything around you succeeding. But talk about the importance of that in your mind and how it's been going.

Josh: Yeah if I can think of just a quote that kind of helps me frame up and kind of keeps me pushing forward. But it's along the lines of you know if you want to live a story worth telling you have to keep adding pages to your book. So I'm always trying to find a way whether or not it's being a better coach from a lacrosse standpoint, being better at the more scientific aspect of what I do from a human performance standpoint or overall just from an intangible standpoint. Those three different areas are areas where I'm constantly reading things with regards to self-improvement, going to courses, seeking out people that are doing a good job in each of those three areas and overall just pushing myself forward. Appreciating the fact that if I don't sit here from a year from now and I'm in a significantly different place I probably plateaued. And when I think a plateau I just think it's a stagnation that just sounds kinda boring to me.

Adam: Absolutely. Alright where can people follow along with what you're doing in your journey?

Josh: For me, @Josh_Funk on instagram, pretty active on there, outside of that just you know Facebook,, are the two businesses….

Adam: We appreciate it and make sure you check out Josh follow along you will be inspired to simply seen all the different things that he's doing. Listen, I am Adam he's TJ, together we are the Hardwood Hustle until next time we’re out.