Transcribed Podcast with Dr. Funk on Frederick Advice Givers
“A life worth telling a story about. And I think that just really, just changed my trajectory in terms of how, how I approach life, how I approach free time, how I've become a lot more of say yes to just about anything, say no a whole lot less. It's just really allowed me to expand my boundaries and maybe some self limitations I put on myself”.
INTERVIEWER: ERIC VERDI
INTERVIEWEE: DR. JOSH FUNK
Interviewer: It’s Doctor Josh Funk with Rehab 2 Perform. This episode seventy-one of Frederick advice givers. I am Eric Verdi and I thank you for tuning into this week's episode. Before we get to Dr Funk, I want to thank you the listeners for tuning in, without you this pod cast, the movement would not be possible. Started as an idea about twenty months ago and from that idea we researched how to podcast. Sought out some great interviewee and that is how we're bringing you Dr Funk today. Josh can you hear me are you there?
Funk: All set rather ready to go.
Interviewer: Alright man, I know you've got a great back story and I know you're doing great things at Rehab to Perform. Before we talk about you professionally, in a few minutes tell us that that back story; where do you grow up, what do you enjoy doing in your spare time and it what did you do before Rehab to Perform.
Funk: So, I guess my story begins with, with family, you know when I think about it my, my parents both had unique backgrounds. My mom was raised by a career military man, my grandfather ended up retiring as a colonel in the Army. My father was raised by two educators; one that was in the Merchant Marines for a little while as well. I probably grew up in a little bit more of a strict environment than a lot of people. I can remember a lot of times growing up just, not maybe, not having opportunities to do certain things that other people had the ability to do. You call it privileges or maybe going to do things that you know my parents didn't allow me to do. But I think that structure early on really, really set me up nicely for a lot of things that I was fortunate to be able to do growing up whether out of as academics, or athletics, or socially. Just feel like I benefited from that kind of kind of environment.
Parents were big believers of different season, different sport, I think I played just about every sport under the sun. I think I kind of the other day was like nineteen sports growing up. So, we're just very, very big on our structure, on physical activity, on being well rounded, that carried me up into my college days ended up playing college lacrosse at a Ohio State. Was a part of the academic scholarship program there before finding my, you know my passion which was health and wellness which took me to P.T. school at the University of Maryland Baltimore. And I graduated from there in two thousand and eleven and started Rehab to Perform in two thousand and fourteen and here we are sitting in the brand new five thousand square foot facility that is Rehab 2 Perform in Frederick and that's pretty much it.
Interviewer: All right, so you grew up here locally right?
Funk: Yes, I grew up in Montgomery County, grew up in Germantown and then went to Poolesville for the global college program.
Interviewer: OK. And you've got, tell me if I'm wrong here Dr Funk, you've got, you come from athletic family, and your brothers are all athletes too?
Funk: Yes actually, my sister is the best athlete of the family. She was across Hawaii State as well as her brother that's playing football at Maryland right now, I have another brother that's playing lacrosse at NBC and then I have a brother who is a junior at Damascus. They just want to state championship last year and he just received his first scholarship offer from the United States Naval Academy a couple of weeks ago.
Interviewer: Awesome man! So, you come, you come from an athletic family a background. All right so. How did you know, well was there a specific instance did you get hurt in college and you had to do P.T. How did you know you want to go into that field?
Funk: It was my soft more year, was about halfway through the season and I got hit at practice and my shoulder just blew up, I couldn't raise it over my head. Went to the team doctors got a nine X. ray, I got an M.R.I. I was found out that I had a small rotator cuff tear and a torn labour. And pretty much the doctors at school said hey you can play out the rest of the season but you know you're going to end up needing surgery at the end of this, at the end of the spring. Came home got a second opinion which is something I just, I just recommended just about anybody you know, and was fortunate to run into a doctor that said hey I have seen worse shoulders, do well with physical therapy. And I'll go well physical therapy, I've never really heard of this, but I'll give it a go. And, I mean, I did physical therapy for a summer and I haven't had any issues ever since and it took what was originally a passion of mine, you know I enjoyed being an active, I enjoyed working out and now I had this, this rehabilitation, you're dealing with pain, dealing with limitations. So that just took me down this whole path which, which ended up leading to me you know wanted to get my Clinical Doctorate at Marilyn.
Interviewer: And so, you got your Doctorate. Did you have a job before you start Rehab Perform?
Funk: I did have a job before I started Rehab to Perform. I worked at two different private practice clinics; one was down in a mockery County and one was up in Frederick County, both very, very well run private practice clinics. I think I benefit a ton from just being around other people, seeing what worked for them, what I like to, maybe what I didn't like. And then eventually you know finally I finally got the, the idea that that I wanted to do something that I didn't see a lot of, that I didn't I didn't see a lot of what I'll call a hybrid style, health and wellness clinic if you were to walk into our gym. It’s funny, I'm sitting in the gym aspect if you were to walk into our facility it looks more like a gym for at least sixty to seventy five percent of the of the place. I mean there's turf from one wall to the other, I'm looking over here at a road, rack and dumbbells, and rings, and bumper plates and then on the other side of the facility. You know you have your standard treatment tables you've got your recovery mode allergies and you know it's this hybrid environment. I got the idea because, I ran across this fact while I was working and the number one risk factor for injury is previous injury. So, I think that says just a lot about the rehabilitation model itself when you look at people who are having injuries and then their number one risk factor ends up being a previous injury. I think it says the word quite honestly not doing as good of a job as we could be at taking people to a high level of function. And that's what we're able to do in here, we're able to rehab people are dealing with pain, or dealing with dysfunction and they could go on the other side and make sure that they are doing things that they want to be doing when they leave our office. You know there's no drop off, there's no gap in terms of continuum of care when you're talking about rehab to reform. And you know it took a little while to get to that point but you know we're having we're having really good results and at the end I mean I think we're, we're really, really impacting a lot of people's quality of life.
Interviewer: And that's important you know, taking somebody, you know as a former athlete, not, not merely the level you were. But taking somebody from the rehab to actually have the skills set. And the athletic background for you, you know they're going to be doing certain moves in whatever sport they're doing, right? So, I mean I imagine you have like a whole, a whole plan for them.
Funk: Yes, so what, so when you know someone somebody walks into us, it's about evaluating them big picture. When people come in with a shoulder injury, I would be over looking things at the only thing that I'm focusing on is that individual shoulder. There is a lot of the ways that the body can compensate if areas are limited.
In other parts of that person's body or to be quite honest when you just talk about pain, it forces people to compensate. Your body will try to work around pain and it does wonderful things to allow you to function and do the things you're asking of it. So, when people walk in, we'll take them through, a very, very thorough head to toe assessment standing on a table, sometimes on the turf, sometimes doing body weight activities over here in the gym area. And we're really, really get a big picture of what that person can and can't do, when we talk about things that they can't do that's you know that's what our Home program is, is predominantly targeted at we talk about things that might be painful that pop up on the on the assessment. That's what we're talking about doing things that we do hear that a lot more not unique whether it's dry needling some of the Instrument assisted soft tissue mobilization or some advanced hands on techniques or cupping.
So, there's a wide variety of things that we can do to either be a catalyst which is some of the modalities I just mentioned, or to educate and empower people to take control of these limitations that they might have.
Interviewer: Exactly! Copy made famous by Michael Phelps there in the Olympics.
Funk: I think you know that I realize that's kind of like a thing for some people. I think there's a lot of misconceptions. When you talk about cupping. A lot of people are looking up research on the Eastern based philosophies and, and science. We are functioning more on the western based science in mechanisms with regards to negative pressure, which is what you do and use a cup. So, I just think that you know it's one of those things that there's been a lot of talk back and forth on cupping, I would argue that maybe you don't need to get quite as bruised up as Michael Phelps for something to be effective. But it's just one of those things that I think we're learning more and more about some of these modalities but we had very, very good experiences with.
Interviewer: Right on Dr Funk, let's move on the next section. Three questions about a minute each I call it the minutes to win it. First question, what's been your biggest challenge in your business?
Funk: I think the biggest challenge for me; when I think about just growth, you know growing your own business the first word that comes to mind is autonomy. You get to help steer the ship and you get to decide a lot of what goes into the direction of where the business heads. And I think the hardest thing for me sometimes is recognizing that that autonomy, a lot of times will involve me trying to find other people who can help either come up with ideas that are better than mine, that can do certain things better than mine, and that group that group thought or that way of teamwork will allow us to get exactly where I would like to end up taking the business. And I think that that's just been the hardest for thing for me sometimes is just finding the right people which we've been very, very fortunate in our team. At this point just very, very good at what they do everybody feels roles very well but you know getting back to some of the struggles that we had in the beginning was because I was. I was, I was trying to do too much I had this idea of the way that things needed to be done in the way that I needed to be done you know that I thought they would need to be done quite honestly just wasn't always the best way. So, we grew much, much more when I finally found people that were a good fit that could. Have strengths where I had weaknesses and quite honestly were just better at some things that I was.
Interviewer: And I think that that stems from a saying that I heard and I don't know if it was on another pod caster or in a book or whatever. But it's, it's do what you do best and hire the rest.
Funk: I love it, absolutely, I think that's just that's critical and sometimes realizing that you know, there might be small discrepancies but don't get lost in like the small discrepancies in terms of how your team members want to do things. You're all have the same mission and find that common ground sometimes is that is the best part for the for the company and for the for the staff as well.
Interviewer: Exactly, you know when I started this pod cast, I think you came to me and you've dealt with them M.K. my content manager. You know she basically runs the back end of the pod cast now. And giving up that the control of that does she do everything exactly how I did it? No, but you know what it's freed up a lot of time for me to focus on other things. So, it's something that as a business owner I know you go through and I go through it myself is what do we let go of in yes, it's how we did it and how the new person does it might not be the same but you know what you just gotta let them let them learn.
Funk: Absolutely, and for you with it with them pay I've got Bailey aka Boss Lady. I can tell you that I don't even want to begin to think about life was like what life was like from an operational standpoint before she started up. However, things were then they are ten times better now so I couldn't be more grateful for people like her.
Interviewer: Okay doctor Funk, pretend we on a time machine and go back to right before you started your company, knowing what you know now, and I thought we dealt with this the first question a bit but what is one piece of advice that you would give your former self?
Funk: I think honestly just seeking out people who are trying to accomplish similar things to yourself. I think that whether that leads to a mentorship or whether that leads to your team growing. The sooner you show round yourself with people who are on a similar mission as you, the quicker you will grow personally, the quicker your company will grow; whether or not it's a mentorship standpoint or because you found a staff member to help you out in areas that you just can't do. So, I mean that would easily be me in the beginning, I was trying to do a lot of stuff by myself and that just was leading me into either dead or being too stressed out or almost getting to be quite as just, just burnt out, I just wasn't enjoying it wasn't enjoying the process as much as I am now. Here now we have we have a team of five people, it's going to be six people here in about six weeks and I think we're probably in seven by the end of the year and just, just every time somebody new comes on board from a team standpoint everybody benefits in the company. And then when you talk about the mentorship standpoint, I mean I get, I can't name some of the people that have been just so instrumental, they might be doing very, very similar things to me whether it's in Frederick or outside of record or that it just kind of helped me help me steer the ship a little bit you know get a little bit back on track you know narrow my focus sometimes. I'm a really, really big ideas guy and I get kind of just off track I could be a little A.D.D. at times and have a hard time just, just really, just honing in on what exactly do I need to be doing with my time how do I best need to be able to leverage my, my time, my energy, you know the working relationships that I have with people. So yes, that usually would be the number one advice. If I'm given it might if, I'm giving it to myself and say early two thousand and fourteen.
Interviewer: All right, so last question here take me to a time when you thought wow I'm making a difference tell me that story.
Funk: I think the biggest thing that is impactful when you talk about wow you've made it. I can think of three separate instances, not just going to be themes. Any time someone walks through your door and their overall physicality is how they get an income. I mean that says a lot whether or not you know when you've worked with N.F.L. guys or quite honestly. I don't even more importantly when you talk about cops, a SWAT team, fire, when you talk about people that their lives are little on the line when they go to work. That really, really says a lot about the type of environment and the type of service that we're able to provide here.
You know whether it's somebody last year you know there are a contract year they get the pretty bang up, thing to come out they need to be able to compete and then take somebody that literally like a SWAT guy. I can't think of a whole lot more intense environment where your physicality needs to be peak and when I talk about physicality; you can never forget the psychological piece of it. When people come to you and they are injured there is a psychology to being injured that chips away at your confidence levels. And I would have to say that doubting yourself in an environment where life is on the line is not something that's going to be positive for anyone. Then if I you know if I follow that up. You know people that come to you and they have tried other options. So, they've tried a surgery, they've tried X. P.T., there and they literally come to you go look like my quality of life is severely affected and I need your help, I am no longer able to do the things that I used to be able to do, a mill on grow able to do certain activities with family or friends you don't have like the physicality once again.
There's physicality, physicality plays a big part in terms of our ability to be social. So, by improving somebody’s quality of life, improving their physicality while we're here, we allow them to get back into social activities. Once again getting back into psychology and then the last thing I think is anytime you're working with somebody who has a chronic issue that might be taking pain medication to manage a certain issue and you're able to help somebody either get off pain meds, take less pain meds, or even avoid a surgery like I was fortunate enough to do. I think that's huge, I think for the most part through education and empowerment of people; we can create a real health care environment here. I think when you when you talk about some of the things going on in our health care system nowadays I think it sounds a little bit more like a sick care model and we want to do things to run, it sounds cliché again empower and educate people we want people to feel like they're more in control of how they feel, how they move, how they're performing in daily activities. And then getting back from the performance side, that psychology piece, people that are able to be more physically active, you know if you look up like a book like John Ratey's book. Spark talks about kids, more physically active kids have tended to be, tend to be happier, they tend to have an easier time in school, they tend to be more social.
So, when you talk about that carrying over into adults. Physicality ties into so many aspects of our life that allow us to live this very full life, know this life that is full of vigour, it's full of passion, it's full of energy. So, you know I must say that that's probably the biggest piece that though those three areas when you're talking about you know somebody that comes to you and they need to for their own personal well being perform at a high level when you have people that have lost a certain quality of life that they're used to and they are expecting you to help them with that. Or when you have people take either take less medication or avoid surgeries, those are those are moments where you just sit back and go you know I am, I’m blessed to have this opportunity to help this person and change your trajectory.
Interviewer: Right, so I want to dig deeper on this one, even though you were pretty, pretty deep on that one. I want you to get listeners on a mental journey with you imagine they were dropped off on a desert island and they would have no idea what to. I guess we're going to call you a physical therapist right.
Funk: Title for us you know its Dr, whatever the physical therapist name is and it's a performance physical therapist. It's more than just physical therapy, it's physical therapy and then we're going to take us high as we can take you and maybe even past the level that we've been at before.
Interviewer: OK. So, the natives I am myself have no idea what a performer performance physical therapist is and you to tell them the benefits of working with you and why they may need your services.
Funk: Biggest things and I'm thinking about a population that is not as developed you think about two things that people do and they spend a ton of their life doing it you're either working or you're playing. When I think of work on a deserted island, I think of a lot of tasks that are very physically demanding. So, if I'm doing physically demanding tasks only about to maximize my efficiency to perform those tasks with last energy cost. And if I can perform those tasks and it takes me less energy to do them, they're easy on a daily basis and it will also lead to me being able to recover quicker in between bouts so it takes me to less it’s a less, a less cost to me performing whatever work task that I'm doing, that most likely is going to put me in a position where I'm not pushing my buffer zones. I'm not straining and stressing my body too much and I'm having the ability to stay healthy. And we talk about play, I talk about play on a deserted island, and think about water sports, and going about climbing, thinking about you know doing activities in the sand. So once again better getting back to the efficiency piece, I want to create people hope create people who are more efficient in the areas of work and play. If they're more efficient, they're going to be easier it's going to be easier for them to do whatever activity that they want to do and overall, they're going to able to enjoy their life more because they're not going to have any boundaries. So, I would allow them to be able to get the most out of work and play on that island.
Interviewer: I love it Dr Funk, I love it, I love your total immersion and I can tell your passion about what you do, I can tell you really you know you're not just somebody out there. You're just another doctor not another P.T. This out there just you know just seen clients, I could tell you, you know I come through in the interview that you really care about your patients, about your clientele and about what you do.
Funk: I love this man I tell you what I mean, I was just on a little vacation so to speak and I was in the Dominican on a surfboard for four days and I can tell you that I yeah, I mean from a change of scenery and getting outside of the work environment is the vacation. But I'm always thinking about work and you surprised what you can think about with regards to the work or, or honestly just health and wellness when, when you're in a foreign country and then you come back on Monday and you've got some brand ideas. So yeah, that's it's, the way I'm wired or it's definitely my passion and it's something and to be my passion the rest of my life.
Interviewer: Alright Dr Funk so one last question before we wrap. Think of internet resource or an app like Google Calendar or Voxer you cannot do without what is it?
Funk: I think quite honestly my podcast app, what I would look at some of the podcast that I've been able to listen to on my drive to work, my drive home from work. On long trips, or any other trips that are in general or just associated with work, or with leisure, some of the podcast I've been able to listen to just added tremendous value. And I don't think I would be where I am today without some of those, some of those podcast that I have listened to.
Interviewer: Have further advice; has Fredrick made your top ten yet?
Funk: Frederick advice givers have all been there is an especially any time you need to prepare for a conversation with somebody and you know I mean. I think the last one that I listened to the last two was Danny Farrar and Carly Lederer; I mean there's yeah, it's a tough act to follow. So yeah I've definitely been on your podcast a little bit more lately just trying to do my best to get comfortable and see what people share.
Interviewer: You know Danny and Carly were great and all of our guests man they all have great stories to tell. I'm glad we made your top ten list.
Funk: Absolutely, I thought that I did. I honestly, I'm not from Frederick, so I didn't know about it for a longer time a movie or something you've been doing one or two a week for a while now you know. I always like you know whether it's fair to kind of chamber of commerce or Rotary or anything like that I'm trying to get more and more involved in the community and this is a great way to do it.
Interviewer: Yep and we had Jason Lee, I think he was the past president [25:51 Talking Overlaps]
We're making it weighs in the community here. So, leave our audience with one parting shot, what is a book you've read or quote that you live by that helped mold you?
Funk: I think the biggest quote that fortunately I was exposed to when I was in college think it goes along the lines of "live a life worth telling a story about". And I think that just really just changed my trajectory in terms of how why how I approach life, how I approach free time, how I've become a lot more of say yes to just about anything, say no a whole lot less. It's just really allowed me to expand my boundaries and maybe some self limitations I put on myself.
And taken something that I enjoy doing like travel, I mean I love travelling and it's got me into this more of like World Citizen type mindset. I think when, I when I think about from a work standpoint, I mean I am I'm a hundred miles an hour in the direction that I'm going in at all times. And I want to be able to sit back when I am eighty ninety you know whatever years old. And I want to, I want to, I want to feel satisfied, I want to feel like I've left my mark on wherever I've been, going to feel like I've made an impact, I want to feel like I've helped change the trajectory of people that I've interacted with. I want to say that I've been able to help guide the next generation of people it whether or not it's in my field or you know something like coaching that I've spent a lot of time. Like you know how can I positively affect the next generation of people.
I think stuff like that will allow me to rest pretty easy when I get to those later years of my life and unless I mean that's a quote that I think about possibly like you know should we're a little bit tired when things are quiet, you know when you're a little bit feeling like you're already a little bit. You know what you got a little bit more in you, and you, you can you can say yes to this, you can jump in here. I just think if anything I just want to say that you know I, I got everything that I could possibly get out of life and I put everything that I possibly could put back into it as well.
Interviewer: And that goes hand in hand with how a lot of entrepreneur’s think. You know I think another I don't know where read this or if it was a quote but it's like success to significance. You know we can all have success in our daily lives or in our business or you know it's not all about money bunch about the significance of the impact we make in other people's lives.
Funk: Absolutely! I think that stuff like that I mean we knew when you can say that you possibly impacted, impacted people, I think especially young people. I mean we have a ton of in terms that come through our doors whether their high school college or grad school in terms I mean just being able to have a positive impact on those young people be able to impact, help change the trajectory of their career. And then definitely, I've just always been a believer that sports are about more than sports, sports are a great vehicle to teach a lot of life lessons and if I can help those young people get to wherever they want to be at. Because let's be honest, they're not all going to want to be P.T.S. although it's pretty flattering when some of them do decide they want to be P.T.S. But I'm going to have the ability to help them hopefully find their passion and get as much as they can possibly get from life and do similar things and have success similar to a life that and hopefully way beyond the level of success that I've.
Interviewer: So Dr Funk I would talk to the pre-interview and I asked you, you know do you do you only deal with athletes and you said well you know I deal with weekend warriors, I consider everybody an athlete from weekend warrior to professional athletes and we deal with them all. So how would the "quote and quote" athlete get a hold of you and how do they track you down Dr Funk?
Funk: You can call the boss lady here. 3017984838, we have our Web site. www.rehab2perform.com. You can reach me personally, I'm pretty active on social media whether or not it's Facebook, Instagram Josh_Funk, I've been dabbling around with snap chat a little bit more Funk_docta, a little childhood nickname. But yeah, I mean those are probably the best ways to reach out.
Interviewer: Dr Funk, I appreciate you joining us today and listeners; I have to give a shout out here to Dr Funk, the first time we recorded this interview says this is actually take two my audio wasn't working. So Dr Funk was, was nice enough to carve a second time out of his day to record the interview in this one. I think was as good if not better than the first one what do you think Dr Funk?
Funk: Sometimes it's nice to do a double take.
Interviewer: It is, it is. So, listeners that was Dr Joshua Funk with Rehab to Perform, I hope you enjoyed his interview his passion his story as much as I did he's a great guy great do.
It if you need anything to take up you knows Dr Funk. And we are out.